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Do You See What I Hear?

Ok, I got this email from a total idiot whose second language is speak. This guy's lack of hearing apparently affected his lack of thinking. Read on...

From: Dean DeVolpi

Nice site, but your comments on the helmet cite have a lack of understanding. I posted a quick reply to you and a few others that are being brainwashed by the DOT. I know you don't believe everything the government tells us so why do you listen to the DOT. They are a bunch of intellectually dishonest morons. I also challenge you to come ride with me with your full face helmet in Nevada right now, we will see how long you last in 110 degrees. Make sure your insurance is up to date because I will wear a baseball cap and you will be exhausted or you will be so fatigued that you will increase your odds of getting hit.

By the way, You do write well.

Here is what I put on the site...

have a nice day

ddv

To the one who asked why

I have a few comments, first I performed an experiment very simple, I am hearing impaired an Engineer and would say decent understanding of sound. I had an Emergency room doctor put a full-face helmet on his head with the helmet lid down and I had someone make a sound at various angles around him with his eyes closed. The theory was due to the speed of sound traveling through the helmet the brain would be fooled in its target direction. Well I was absolutely correct. The MD was about 30 degrees off in finding where the sound was coming from when the sound was to the side. How does this effect a motorcyclist, well in a critical situation where someone does something where you have to take emergency actions you will rely on your hearing senses to determine where the car is next to you. Well you will be wrong and now hit the car next to you. Very easy to duplicate. Second it throws off your ability to do sound filtering the way a human ear/brain works. So your ability to filter out sound is highly diminished. Go to a bar or load place and have two people talk to you at 30-degree offsets 3 feet away. You are able to filter and listen to either person talking if you are young enough. Now plug one ear and see if you can understand either of them talking. The brain does some very complicated speed of sound phase filtering and with a helmet the distance is changes and you lose about 33% of your ability. There is a new product making use of this only recently understood phenomena that will revolutionize the hearing impaired industry, search Stanford University for the new product. Thus I have listed two simple ways to understand how a helmet causes hearing problems and one very severe to put a rider at higher risk. From what I have seen the DOT knows for a fact that wearing a helmet increases your probability of getting in an accident. We have argued this for years to them and to date not once have they ever listed the data to prove this is wrong, so by default this is true. The keep all the data and will not give it to us, I have requested it on numerous occasions but the keeper of the data will not release it. They just want to release the death rates. Here is a flaw in that logic; they state that if the states without helmet would have 40% plus less deaths. I asked my friends the emergency room doctors which costs society more a dead motorcyclist or a motorcyclist that would probably have a head injury if his accident was that severe? Well low and behold the dead one costs nothing and the ones that now would have lived cost $40,000.00 plus a day to treat. So in states that have helmet laws they would save about 40% if they would allow choice.

 

And I retort with...

"Nice site, but your comments on the helmet cite have a lack of understanding."

Thank you, but I understand them just fine, and if you wore a helmet when you rode, you would too.

 

"I posted a quick reply to you and a few others that are being brainwashed by the DOT. I know you don't believe everything the government tells us so why do you listen to the DOT."

Judging by your various and copious grammar and punctuation mistakes, I would certainly hope you wrote it quickly. One thing I have learned in this life is if you are going to make an argument, you better do it well, or your point will be dismissed, and so will you.

No, I don't believe everything the government tells me, and I am not brain-washed in any way. I used the DOT stats to prove a point. However, for this argument, I won't. I'll just use this little thing called common sense, which in your case, isn't so common.

 

"I also challenge you to come ride with me with your full face helmet in Nevada right now, we will see how long you last in 110 degrees. Make sure your insurance is up to date because I will wear a baseball cap and you will be exhausted or you will be so fatigued that you will increase your odds of getting hit."

Ok bonehead, I'll accept your challenge. To fill in your apparently empty head, I live in Arizona (temporally relocated to Tampa, FL). Not only do I ride for several hours all the damn time in 110 degree heat, but I also ride in full leathers, gloves, and boots, and make it just fine. I'm not the only one either. Most of the group I ride with do the exact same thing. If the best argument you have against helmets is heat, you are even more stupid than I originally thought, and a huge pussy!

"I have a few comments, first I performed an experiment very simple, I am hearing impaired an Engineer and would say decent understanding of sound. I had an Emergency room doctor put a full-face helmet on his head with the helmet lid down and I had someone make a sound at various angles around him with his eyes closed. The theory was due to the speed of sound traveling through the helmet the brain would be fooled in its target direction. Well I was absolutely correct. The MD was about 30 degrees off in finding where the sound was coming from when the sound was to the side. How does this effect a motorcyclist, well in a critical situation where someone does something where you have to take emergency actions you will rely on your hearing senses to determine where the car is next to you. Well you will be wrong and now hit the car next to you. Very easy to duplicate."

I have a few questions. First, are you the biggest fucking idiot ever? You performed a very simple experiment using an emergency room doctor. Ok, does this doctor ride? What does being a doctor have to do with motorcycling, not one damn thing. Then you have him place a full face helmet on and then have him CLOSE HIS EYES!!! Who the fuck do you know that rides a bike with their eyes closed? Your theory is seriously flawed. When you are on the road, you need to be aware of your surroundings AT ALL TIMES. People do not use hearing as their primary method of avoiding accidents, you shit. With all the other sounds going on around you, (road noise, exhaust note, wind, etc) your hearing is impaired, helmet or no (I just recently performed an experiment and rode both with and without a helmet down the street at around 60 mph. Not surprisingly, I experienced less wind noise WITH the helmet). If you depend on your hearing in a critical situation, you are in serious hurt. Didn't you say that you are HEARING IMPAIRED. The fact that you even use this argument is, well, just stupid.

 

"From what I have seen the DOT knows for a fact that wearing a helmet increases your probability of getting in an accident. We have argued this for years to them and to date not once have they ever listed the data to prove this is wrong, so by default this is true."

From what I have seen, you are still an idiot. If a helmet increases your probability of getting into accidents, then you need to seriously rethink your riding skills. The stupidest point you have made so far is that something is true because you don't have the data. How the fuck did you come up with that. "Yes Mr. Director, we have the cure for cancer. No we haven't tested it, but since we don't have any data that it doesn't work, then is must."

 

Here is a flaw in that logic; they state that if the states without helmet would have 40% plus less deaths. I asked my friends the emergency room doctors which costs society more a dead motorcyclist or a motorcyclist that would probably have a head injury if his accident was that severe? Well low and behold the dead one costs nothing and the ones that now would have lived cost $40,000.00 plus a day to treat. So in states that have helmet laws they would save about 40% if they would allow choice.

Oops, I was wrong, THIS is your stupidest argument. You have got to be the shallowest S.O.B. on the planet. Helmets are about saving lives, not money. You can't put a price on life. GOD you are a fucking moron. I'm so pissed I could just shit. I'm done with you. Fucking die so we don't have to spend any money on you!!!

Red.

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